Comments on: Notes: “Un-touched Spain” Found, and the New Spanish Anthem http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/01/13/notes-un-touched-spain-found-and-the-new-spanish-anthem/ Podcasts and comment on travel, tapas, learning Spanish and living in Spain, plus beautiful Spain photos. Tue, 24 Jan 2012 08:00:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Wannabegafapasta http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/01/13/notes-un-touched-spain-found-and-the-new-spanish-anthem/comment-page-1/#comment-36049 Wannabegafapasta Sat, 24 May 2008 14:34:18 +0000 http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/01/13/notes-un-touched-spain-found-and-the-new-spanish-anthem/#comment-36049 Spanish anthem has ALWAYS been lyric-less. It was, at origin, a military Grenadiers' March, chosen by the king Charles the Third as the National Anthem. Except a brief period when the National Anthem was the Riego's Hymn, it has always remained the same (during Franco's regime an UNOFFICIAL text was produced by the then deemed official poet of the regime, José Marí­a Pemán, but it was never approved of). Spanish anthem has ALWAYS been lyric-less. It was, at origin, a military Grenadiers’ March, chosen by the king Charles the Third as the National Anthem. Except a brief period when the National Anthem was the Riego’s Hymn, it has always remained the same (during Franco’s regime an UNOFFICIAL text was produced by the then deemed official poet of the regime, José Marí­a Pemán, but it was never approved of).

]]> By: Chris Boswell http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/01/13/notes-un-touched-spain-found-and-the-new-spanish-anthem/comment-page-1/#comment-25100 Chris Boswell Thu, 17 Jan 2008 07:18:22 +0000 http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/01/13/notes-un-touched-spain-found-and-the-new-spanish-anthem/#comment-25100 Unfortunately, national anthems are always going to be a source of contention whatever the country and whatever the lyrics, since they are by their nature self-congratulationary and nationalistic. There's always going to be something in there to get the heckles up of someone. Unfortunately, national anthems are always going to be a source of contention whatever the country and whatever the lyrics, since they are by their nature self-congratulationary and nationalistic. There’s always going to be something in there to get the heckles up of someone.

]]> By: Graham Tappenden http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/01/13/notes-un-touched-spain-found-and-the-new-spanish-anthem/comment-page-1/#comment-25090 Graham Tappenden Thu, 17 Jan 2008 06:55:48 +0000 http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/01/13/notes-un-touched-spain-found-and-the-new-spanish-anthem/#comment-25090 @Andrew: very German??? The first line of the German national anthem is "Unity and justice and freedom"! OK, admittedly "For the German fatherland"... But is there a big difference between singing "fatherland" and "motherland"? Land of Hope and Glory, Mother of the Free... It is one of the hottest debating topics in Germany, perhaps more so than in other countries - how patriotic are you allowed to be? @Andrew: very German???

The first line of the German national anthem is “Unity and justice and freedom”!

OK, admittedly “For the German fatherland”…

But is there a big difference between singing “fatherland” and “motherland”?

Land of Hope and Glory, Mother of the Free…

It is one of the hottest debating topics in Germany, perhaps more so than in other countries – how patriotic are you allowed to be?

]]> By: ValenciaSon http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/01/13/notes-un-touched-spain-found-and-the-new-spanish-anthem/comment-page-1/#comment-24571 ValenciaSon Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:08:55 +0000 http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/01/13/notes-un-touched-spain-found-and-the-new-spanish-anthem/#comment-24571 No palabrotas? No palabrotas?

]]> By: Dave_K http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/01/13/notes-un-touched-spain-found-and-the-new-spanish-anthem/comment-page-1/#comment-24570 Dave_K Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:23:50 +0000 http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/01/13/notes-un-touched-spain-found-and-the-new-spanish-anthem/#comment-24570 Very bland, very un-Spanish. Very bland, very un-Spanish.

]]> By: Jon Hundt http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/01/13/notes-un-touched-spain-found-and-the-new-spanish-anthem/comment-page-1/#comment-24563 Jon Hundt Mon, 14 Jan 2008 16:48:54 +0000 http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/01/13/notes-un-touched-spain-found-and-the-new-spanish-anthem/#comment-24563 There are many Americans who complain about our own rousing national anthem, and would replace it with a much sappier song. I can't see much to complain about in the English translation, but then again I am neither Basque nor Catalan. The lyrics (as translated) are far less controversial than those of the US, Dutch, or French anthems. He did a good job of saying positive yet unoffensive things. If the Basques or Catalans asked me, I'd probably give 'em a gentle nudge and say "it could be a lot worse, come on it's really just a nice song to sing together ot special events". There are many Americans who complain about our own rousing national anthem, and would replace it with a much sappier song.

I can’t see much to complain about in the English translation, but then again I am neither Basque nor Catalan.

The lyrics (as translated) are far less controversial than those of the US, Dutch, or French anthems. He did a good job of saying positive yet unoffensive things.

If the Basques or Catalans asked me, I’d probably give ‘em a gentle nudge and say “it could be a lot worse, come on it’s really just a nice song to sing together ot special events”.

]]> By: Andrew http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/01/13/notes-un-touched-spain-found-and-the-new-spanish-anthem/comment-page-1/#comment-24405 Andrew Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:40:05 +0000 http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/01/13/notes-un-touched-spain-found-and-the-new-spanish-anthem/#comment-24405 We only need national anthems so we can sing at international football matches but I can't see the Catalans and Basques adopting this one. The lyrics do seem a bit out-dated and German, particularly if translating Patria to Fatherland. Too male dominated too - father/brother/sons. Hopefully it will be rejected in favour of a more jolly song with references to paella, jamon, flamenco, Penelope Cruz... We only need national anthems so we can sing at international football matches but I can’t see the Catalans and Basques adopting this one. The lyrics do seem a bit out-dated and German, particularly if translating Patria to Fatherland. Too male dominated too – father/brother/sons. Hopefully it will be rejected in favour of a more jolly song with references to paella, jamon, flamenco, Penelope Cruz…

]]> By: Mrmark http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/01/13/notes-un-touched-spain-found-and-the-new-spanish-anthem/comment-page-1/#comment-24403 Mrmark Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:04:18 +0000 http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/01/13/notes-un-touched-spain-found-and-the-new-spanish-anthem/#comment-24403 People always complain about the dirge we have in the UK, and often suggest a replacement. I'm beginning to wonder if, in today's global world, we need a national anthem at all? It surely doesn't make our country better/worse ? People always complain about the dirge we have in the UK, and often suggest a replacement. I’m beginning to wonder if, in today’s global world, we need a national anthem at all? It surely doesn’t make our country better/worse ?

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