Comments on: Comment of the week – List of non-smoking bars and restaurants in Spain http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/03/12/comment-of-the-week-list-of-non-smoking-bars-and-restaurants-in-spain/ Podcasts and comment on travel, tapas, learning Spanish and living in Spain, plus beautiful Spain photos. Tue, 24 Jan 2012 08:00:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Cigar http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/03/12/comment-of-the-week-list-of-non-smoking-bars-and-restaurants-in-spain/comment-page-1/#comment-125879 Cigar Mon, 05 Oct 2009 10:19:38 +0000 http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/03/12/comment-of-the-week-list-of-non-smoking-bars-and-restaurants-in-spain/#comment-125879 This is a really useful list thanks, I’ve got so used to the smoking ban in most of Europe when I travel to Spain it’s a nightmare to find a smoke free restaurant or bar. Even those they say they are smoke free I’ve noticed people get away with smoking cigars instead of cigarettes. This is a really useful list thanks, I’ve got so used to the smoking ban in most of Europe when I travel to Spain it’s a nightmare to find a smoke free restaurant or bar. Even those they say they are smoke free I’ve noticed people get away with smoking cigars instead of cigarettes.

]]> By: MeganL http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/03/12/comment-of-the-week-list-of-non-smoking-bars-and-restaurants-in-spain/comment-page-1/#comment-99830 MeganL Sun, 26 Apr 2009 12:22:10 +0000 http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/03/12/comment-of-the-week-list-of-non-smoking-bars-and-restaurants-in-spain/#comment-99830 For sushi lovers, check out Miyama, a new Japanese restaurant on the Castellana, at #45. 91 391 00 26. The whole establishment is non-smoking and the food and service are both great! For sushi lovers, check out Miyama, a new Japanese restaurant on the Castellana, at #45. 91 391 00 26. The whole establishment is non-smoking and the food and service are both great!

]]> By: sandy http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/03/12/comment-of-the-week-list-of-non-smoking-bars-and-restaurants-in-spain/comment-page-1/#comment-33510 sandy Tue, 25 Mar 2008 13:51:26 +0000 http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/03/12/comment-of-the-week-list-of-non-smoking-bars-and-restaurants-in-spain/#comment-33510 I have just returned from Bilbao. We went to El Huevo Frito in Bilbao, which according to my experience and verified on nofumadores.org, it is supposed to be "100% libre de humos". But not so anymor. There was a sign stating smoking is allowed. Although no one was smoking when we went there, there were cigarette butts on the floor. I wonder what happened. I have just returned from Bilbao. We went to El Huevo Frito in Bilbao, which according to my experience and verified on nofumadores.org, it is supposed to be “100% libre de humos”. But not so anymor. There was a sign stating smoking is allowed. Although no one was smoking when we went there, there were cigarette butts on the floor. I wonder what happened.

]]> By: frank http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/03/12/comment-of-the-week-list-of-non-smoking-bars-and-restaurants-in-spain/comment-page-1/#comment-33223 frank Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:55:45 +0000 http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/03/12/comment-of-the-week-list-of-non-smoking-bars-and-restaurants-in-spain/#comment-33223 I have spent a lifetime working in some of the most inhospitable and dangerous working environments you can think of. It was my choice. It is theirs. Nuff said. For which you get very well paid. Not everyone is as clever as you, some people are destined to work in menial jobs, that is as much as they can ever aspire to. Given that is a crap job, with crap wages, I think that's bad enough, without insisting they work in a smoke filled room, just so as you can enjoy your selfish pleasures. I have spent a lifetime working in some of the most inhospitable and dangerous working environments you can think of. It was my choice. It is theirs. Nuff said.

For which you get very well paid. Not everyone is as clever as you, some people are destined to work in menial jobs, that is as much as they can ever aspire to. Given that is a crap job, with crap wages, I think that’s bad enough, without insisting they work in a smoke filled room, just so as you can enjoy your selfish pleasures.

]]> By: Ben http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/03/12/comment-of-the-week-list-of-non-smoking-bars-and-restaurants-in-spain/comment-page-1/#comment-33220 Ben Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:41:33 +0000 http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/03/12/comment-of-the-week-list-of-non-smoking-bars-and-restaurants-in-spain/#comment-33220 Funny how smokers always think it is their right to make others unhealthy too. Anyway, this is an argument that clearly each side is not going to let the other win. All I can say is thank god I gave up smoking after meddling with it for just a couple of years. It really makes me genuinely sad to see smokers unable to escape something that is only destined to make Tobacco giants rich, and them potentially terminally ill quicker. I admit to being one of those annoying ex-smokers who now abhors smoking. Funny how smokers always think it is their right to make others unhealthy too.

Anyway, this is an argument that clearly each side is not going to let the other win.

All I can say is thank god I gave up smoking after meddling with it for just a couple of years. It really makes me genuinely sad to see smokers unable to escape something that is only destined to make Tobacco giants rich, and them potentially terminally ill quicker. I admit to being one of those annoying ex-smokers who now abhors smoking.

]]> By: Edith http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/03/12/comment-of-the-week-list-of-non-smoking-bars-and-restaurants-in-spain/comment-page-1/#comment-33219 Edith Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:57:57 +0000 http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/03/12/comment-of-the-week-list-of-non-smoking-bars-and-restaurants-in-spain/#comment-33219 @ Richardska This is not entirely true. When you are on the dole, you are supposed to accept any kind of job which comes your way, or you may lose your unemployment benefits. So it's not all about free choice. @ Richardska

This is not entirely true. When you are on the dole, you are supposed to accept any kind of job which comes your way, or you may lose your unemployment benefits. So it’s not all about free choice.

]]> By: richardksa http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/03/12/comment-of-the-week-list-of-non-smoking-bars-and-restaurants-in-spain/comment-page-1/#comment-33214 richardksa Sun, 16 Mar 2008 10:45:39 +0000 http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/03/12/comment-of-the-week-list-of-non-smoking-bars-and-restaurants-in-spain/#comment-33214 @Parubin: "Here's one argument for you : It is unhealthy for the people working in that 'smoking bar". I have spent a lifetime working in some of the most inhospitable and dangerous working environments you can think of. It was my choice. It is theirs. Nuff said. @Parubin: “Here’s one argument for you : It is unhealthy for the people working in that ‘smoking bar”.
I have spent a lifetime working in some of the most inhospitable and dangerous working environments you can think of. It was my choice. It is theirs. Nuff said.

]]> By: sandy http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/03/12/comment-of-the-week-list-of-non-smoking-bars-and-restaurants-in-spain/comment-page-1/#comment-33099 sandy Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:55:39 +0000 http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/03/12/comment-of-the-week-list-of-non-smoking-bars-and-restaurants-in-spain/#comment-33099 I second "Perhaps the reverse would be better, it's a non smoking bar, if you don't like it, don't go in there." - Frank Like Luke, my father also died of lung cancer when he was 64. I believe Spanish in general are more tolerant towards smoking, thus the law. I have never heard anyone in Spain answering "Yes, I do indeed"when asked "do you mind if I smoke". I second “Perhaps the reverse would be better, it’s a non smoking bar, if you don’t like it, don’t go in there.” – Frank

Like Luke, my father also died of lung cancer when he was 64.

I believe Spanish in general are more tolerant towards smoking, thus the law. I have never heard anyone in Spain answering “Yes, I do indeed”when asked “do you mind if I smoke”.

]]> By: Parubin http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/03/12/comment-of-the-week-list-of-non-smoking-bars-and-restaurants-in-spain/comment-page-1/#comment-33098 Parubin Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:36:50 +0000 http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/03/12/comment-of-the-week-list-of-non-smoking-bars-and-restaurants-in-spain/#comment-33098 @ Estuart : Here's one argument for you : It is unhealthy for the people working in that 'smoking bar'. Also we have to realize that this ban's main goal is to prevent future tabaquism, one of the main causes for bad quality of life for people (or even premature death) in many countries. @ David About the nanny state telling us what's good or not, you are right. In a full democracy and in the information era we should be able to make our own decisions. We even have to have the right to make mistakes. Once in a blue moon I enjoy a marijuana cigarrette. Something wrong with that?? Any difference from drinking a glass of Scotch?? Obviously not, but our nanny law-makers forbid the use of marijuana because apparently it is no good for you. So what?? French fries with ketchup are no good either.Even if it is no good I still want to be free to take a puff if I want. Who is anyone to tell me what to do with myself? But the discussion here is not about your freedom to smoke (you remain free to smoke at home or in open spaces) it is other people's freedom not to inhale second hand smoke what's at stake. @ Estuart :
Here’s one argument for you : It is unhealthy for the people working in that ‘smoking bar’.

Also we have to realize that this ban’s main goal is to prevent future tabaquism, one of the main causes for bad quality of life for people (or even premature death) in many countries.

@ David
About the nanny state telling us what’s good or not, you are right. In a full democracy and in the information era we should be able to make our own decisions. We even have to have the right to make mistakes.
Once in a blue moon I enjoy a marijuana cigarrette. Something wrong with that?? Any difference from drinking a glass of Scotch?? Obviously not, but our nanny law-makers forbid the use of marijuana because apparently it is no good for you. So what?? French fries with ketchup are no good either.Even if it is no good I still want to be free to take a puff if I want. Who is anyone to tell me what to do with myself?

But the discussion here is not about your freedom to smoke (you remain free to smoke at home or in open spaces) it is other people’s freedom not to inhale second hand smoke what’s at stake.

]]> By: Estuart http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/03/12/comment-of-the-week-list-of-non-smoking-bars-and-restaurants-in-spain/comment-page-1/#comment-33096 Estuart Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:16:16 +0000 http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/03/12/comment-of-the-week-list-of-non-smoking-bars-and-restaurants-in-spain/#comment-33096 Richardska,I'm with you on this subject.People have become obsessed with bans.Why is there a need to have a ban on smoking in all bars?Why can't smokers have their own bars that allow smoking with the majority of bars to be non-smoking?Why can't i open a smoking bar?Nobody has come up with a decent argument yet other than 'i don't like smoke so ban it'.Lazy and predictable. Richardska,I’m with you on this subject.People have become obsessed with bans.Why is there a need to have a ban on smoking in all bars?Why can’t smokers have their own bars that allow smoking with the majority of bars to be non-smoking?Why can’t i open a smoking bar?Nobody has come up with a decent argument yet other than ‘i don’t like smoke so ban it’.Lazy and predictable.

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