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		<title>By: Erika</title>
		<link>http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/03/31/am-i-a-guiri/comment-page-2/#comment-132274</link>
		<dc:creator>Erika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 03:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Spanish colleague explained it to me, the term &#039;guiri&#039; isn&#039;t necessarily pejorative. For instance, she explained very sweetly, she could say, &quot;I love spending time with guiris!&quot; or &quot;Look at the guiris sitting in the sun!&quot; 

However, if you substitute, let&#039;s say, the term &#039;black people&#039; (a race-based, non-culture-specific term) for &#039;guiris&#039; in the same sentence you begin to see the term for what it is. 
I love spending time with black people!
Look at the black people sitting in the sun!

Even in what Spaniards believe to be the most benign context, the term &#039;guiri&#039; reduces a diverse, complex group of individuals to mass novelty with a given set of behaviors. 

The fact is, it is impossible to generalize and reduce others to novelty without limiting our humanity.

The term is offensive. No matter how much cariño you inject into it. No matter how hard you try to convince yourself otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Spanish colleague explained it to me, the term &#8216;guiri&#8217; isn&#8217;t necessarily pejorative. For instance, she explained very sweetly, she could say, &#8220;I love spending time with guiris!&#8221; or &#8220;Look at the guiris sitting in the sun!&#8221; </p>
<p>However, if you substitute, let&#8217;s say, the term &#8216;black people&#8217; (a race-based, non-culture-specific term) for &#8216;guiris&#8217; in the same sentence you begin to see the term for what it is.<br />
I love spending time with black people!<br />
Look at the black people sitting in the sun!</p>
<p>Even in what Spaniards believe to be the most benign context, the term &#8216;guiri&#8217; reduces a diverse, complex group of individuals to mass novelty with a given set of behaviors. </p>
<p>The fact is, it is impossible to generalize and reduce others to novelty without limiting our humanity.</p>
<p>The term is offensive. No matter how much cariño you inject into it. No matter how hard you try to convince yourself otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: "we dont consider them less"</title>
		<link>http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/03/31/am-i-a-guiri/comment-page-2/#comment-104794</link>
		<dc:creator>"we dont consider them less"</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 15:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got here while looking up the definition of &quot;quiri&quot;, a word written in a review (the author, a British woman, didn&#039;t get it right despite complaining she was called that all the time while visiting Spain).
The term &quot;guiri&quot;, offencive or not, can be extremely annoying because most people aren&#039;t amused to be repeatedly referred to by a foreign word they hardly know what it means.

I&#039;m Portuguese and I didn&#039;t know the expression.
We do have some expressions to &quot;label&quot; some foreigners but these have been coined in a specific historical context (eg. during war or past conflicts) and they usually are not used to refer to a group of tourists, even among our selves.
However, we do have something similar to &quot;guiri&quot; - Nordic tourists can sometimes be called locally &quot;camones&quot; (from the English Come on, don&#039;t really know why) but never directly to any person or group - not because it&#039;s pejorative (means simply someone who, as a rule, is a tourist from Northern Europe, I guess because of their different attitude and different looks) but because for us it&#039;s just not polite nor good hosting.
With the following example, I don&#039;t mean to slag off all Spanish people but some can be quite rude not to mention unprofessional towards tourists, whom are basically their livelihood.
I was recently in Cordoba and happen to be wearing a t-shirt with &quot;Canada&quot; printed on. I remember someone shouting out at one point &quot;Inglés hijo de p*ta&quot; clearly in my direction. &quot;Good thing I&#039;m not English&quot;, I thought...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got here while looking up the definition of &#8220;quiri&#8221;, a word written in a review (the author, a British woman, didn&#8217;t get it right despite complaining she was called that all the time while visiting Spain).<br />
The term &#8220;guiri&#8221;, offencive or not, can be extremely annoying because most people aren&#8217;t amused to be repeatedly referred to by a foreign word they hardly know what it means.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m Portuguese and I didn&#8217;t know the expression.<br />
We do have some expressions to &#8220;label&#8221; some foreigners but these have been coined in a specific historical context (eg. during war or past conflicts) and they usually are not used to refer to a group of tourists, even among our selves.<br />
However, we do have something similar to &#8220;guiri&#8221; &#8211; Nordic tourists can sometimes be called locally &#8220;camones&#8221; (from the English Come on, don&#8217;t really know why) but never directly to any person or group &#8211; not because it&#8217;s pejorative (means simply someone who, as a rule, is a tourist from Northern Europe, I guess because of their different attitude and different looks) but because for us it&#8217;s just not polite nor good hosting.<br />
With the following example, I don&#8217;t mean to slag off all Spanish people but some can be quite rude not to mention unprofessional towards tourists, whom are basically their livelihood.<br />
I was recently in Cordoba and happen to be wearing a t-shirt with &#8220;Canada&#8221; printed on. I remember someone shouting out at one point &#8220;Inglés hijo de p*ta&#8221; clearly in my direction. &#8220;Good thing I&#8217;m not English&#8221;, I thought&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: "we dont consider them less"</title>
		<link>http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/03/31/am-i-a-guiri/comment-page-2/#comment-104793</link>
		<dc:creator>"we dont consider them less"</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 15:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got here while looking up the definition of &quot;quiri&quot;, a word written in a review (the author, a British woman, didn&#039;t get it right despite complaining she was called that all the time while visiting Spain).
The term &quot;guiri&quot;, offencive or not, can be extremely annoying because most people aren&#039;t amused to be repeatedly referred to by a foreign word they hardly know what it means.

I&#039;m Portuguese and I didn&#039;t know the expression.
We do have some expressions to &quot;label&quot; some foreigners but these have been coined in a specific historical context (eg. during war or past conflicts) and they usually are not used to refer to a group of tourists, even among our selves.
However, we do have something similar to &quot;guiri&quot; - Nordic tourists can sometimes be called locally &quot;camones&quot; (from the English Come on, don&#039;t really know why) but never directly to any person or group - not because it&#039;s pejorative (means simply someone who, as a rule, is a tourist from Northern Europe, I guess because of their different attitude and different looks) but because for us it&#039;s just not polite nor good hosting.
I have travelled around Europe; with the following example, I don&#039;t mean to slag off all Spanish people but some can be quite rude not to mention unprofessional towards tourists, whom are basically their livelihood.
I was recently in Cordoba and happen to be wearing a t-shirt with &quot;Canada&quot; printed on. I remember someone shouting out at one point &quot;Inglés hijo de puta&quot; clearly in my direction. &quot;Good thing I&#039;m not English&quot;, I thought...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got here while looking up the definition of &#8220;quiri&#8221;, a word written in a review (the author, a British woman, didn&#8217;t get it right despite complaining she was called that all the time while visiting Spain).<br />
The term &#8220;guiri&#8221;, offencive or not, can be extremely annoying because most people aren&#8217;t amused to be repeatedly referred to by a foreign word they hardly know what it means.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m Portuguese and I didn&#8217;t know the expression.<br />
We do have some expressions to &#8220;label&#8221; some foreigners but these have been coined in a specific historical context (eg. during war or past conflicts) and they usually are not used to refer to a group of tourists, even among our selves.<br />
However, we do have something similar to &#8220;guiri&#8221; &#8211; Nordic tourists can sometimes be called locally &#8220;camones&#8221; (from the English Come on, don&#8217;t really know why) but never directly to any person or group &#8211; not because it&#8217;s pejorative (means simply someone who, as a rule, is a tourist from Northern Europe, I guess because of their different attitude and different looks) but because for us it&#8217;s just not polite nor good hosting.<br />
I have travelled around Europe; with the following example, I don&#8217;t mean to slag off all Spanish people but some can be quite rude not to mention unprofessional towards tourists, whom are basically their livelihood.<br />
I was recently in Cordoba and happen to be wearing a t-shirt with &#8220;Canada&#8221; printed on. I remember someone shouting out at one point &#8220;Inglés hijo de puta&#8221; clearly in my direction. &#8220;Good thing I&#8217;m not English&#8221;, I thought&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Spain</title>
		<link>http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/03/31/am-i-a-guiri/comment-page-2/#comment-65775</link>
		<dc:creator>Spain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just because we call them guiris we dont consider them less or different from us.We like guiris what we dont like is ragheads n beaners..yea ive said it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just because we call them guiris we dont consider them less or different from us.We like guiris what we dont like is ragheads n beaners..yea ive said it.</p>
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		<title>By: Spain</title>
		<link>http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/03/31/am-i-a-guiri/comment-page-2/#comment-65771</link>
		<dc:creator>Spain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eh no its not the same as gringo or yankee we arent mexicans we are white people thank u very much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eh no its not the same as gringo or yankee we arent mexicans we are white people thank u very much.</p>
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		<title>By: Spain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guiri is not an offensive word n yea thats how we call northern europeans especially brits n germans cuz those are mainly the tourists that visit Spain the most.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guiri is not an offensive word n yea thats how we call northern europeans especially brits n germans cuz those are mainly the tourists that visit Spain the most.</p>
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		<title>By: El Gabacho</title>
		<link>http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/03/31/am-i-a-guiri/comment-page-2/#comment-59046</link>
		<dc:creator>El Gabacho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>for Edith and hellothere : Yes we have one word in french for spanish people : Espingouin, wich is a contraction of spanish (espagnol) and penguin (pingouin).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for Edith and hellothere : Yes we have one word in french for spanish people : Espingouin, wich is a contraction of spanish (espagnol) and penguin (pingouin).</p>
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		<title>By: raytibbitts</title>
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		<dc:creator>raytibbitts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 14:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few years ago, when my wife and I were visiting my parents in California, my wife overheard my mom calling the cats in for their supper.
Now, I grew up thinking it was the most common thing to yell, in a high, shrill voice, &quot;Here, kitty, kitty, kitty, kitty, kitty!&quot; To call for cats, seeing how it always seemed to work for our cats.  (And our dogs, and strays, and sometimes racoons.)
Well, my wife was quite startled by the sound, and she also found it to be absolutely hilarious, and she chuckled and choked on her drink.
She thought it was a pretty good idea, though, and sometimes she will call out for ME saying, &quot;Here guiri, guiri, guiri!&quot;

This same trip marked her first experience with hummingbirds.  We were sitting quietly on the porch and a rather large one came buzzing up to her, pretty close to her face.  I heard it coming, and was thinking about how peaceful and lovely everything was, and how I wished I could return to the innocence of my youth.
She stood up and ran screaming to the other side of the porch.
She thought she was being attacked by some enormous mutated insect.
We all tried not to laugh too much and to comfort her and show her how elegant and graceful they are.  Of course, no sooner than my dad had filled and set out the hummingbird feeder, but another, larger male showed up and started attacking the guy that had startled my wife, seeming to confirm her suspicion that they were, in truth, aggressive and possibly dangerous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few years ago, when my wife and I were visiting my parents in California, my wife overheard my mom calling the cats in for their supper.<br />
Now, I grew up thinking it was the most common thing to yell, in a high, shrill voice, &#8220;Here, kitty, kitty, kitty, kitty, kitty!&#8221; To call for cats, seeing how it always seemed to work for our cats.  (And our dogs, and strays, and sometimes racoons.)<br />
Well, my wife was quite startled by the sound, and she also found it to be absolutely hilarious, and she chuckled and choked on her drink.<br />
She thought it was a pretty good idea, though, and sometimes she will call out for ME saying, &#8220;Here guiri, guiri, guiri!&#8221;</p>
<p>This same trip marked her first experience with hummingbirds.  We were sitting quietly on the porch and a rather large one came buzzing up to her, pretty close to her face.  I heard it coming, and was thinking about how peaceful and lovely everything was, and how I wished I could return to the innocence of my youth.<br />
She stood up and ran screaming to the other side of the porch.<br />
She thought she was being attacked by some enormous mutated insect.<br />
We all tried not to laugh too much and to comfort her and show her how elegant and graceful they are.  Of course, no sooner than my dad had filled and set out the hummingbird feeder, but another, larger male showed up and started attacking the guy that had startled my wife, seeming to confirm her suspicion that they were, in truth, aggressive and possibly dangerous.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 07:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She would be too if she is a tourist here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She would be too if she is a tourist here.</p>
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		<title>By: acosta</title>
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		<dc:creator>acosta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 19:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So myself being light skinned and from US could be a Guiri but my wife from the Caribbeand and is Mixed (mulata) would not a be a Guiri?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So myself being light skinned and from US could be a Guiri but my wife from the Caribbeand and is Mixed (mulata) would not a be a Guiri?</p>
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