Comments on: Spanish Staple Foods for Spain Strike Crisis http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/06/12/spanish-staple-foods-for-spain-strike-crisis/ Podcasts and comment on travel, tapas, learning Spanish and living in Spain, plus beautiful Spain photos. Tue, 24 Jan 2012 08:00:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: cindy http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/06/12/spanish-staple-foods-for-spain-strike-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-37053 cindy Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:34:18 +0000 http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/06/12/spanish-staple-foods-for-spain-strike-crisis/#comment-37053 @johnross thanks for your interpretation/explanation of this whole mess. my husband is spanish and he couldnt explain it to me ! @johnross
thanks for your interpretation/explanation of this whole mess. my husband is spanish and he couldnt explain it to me !

]]> By: John Ross http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/06/12/spanish-staple-foods-for-spain-strike-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-36997 John Ross Sun, 15 Jun 2008 11:30:16 +0000 http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/06/12/spanish-staple-foods-for-spain-strike-crisis/#comment-36997 @Ray The Spanish lorry drivers' "strike" is not, in fact, a strike, in the sense of workers withdrawing their labour. A trades unionist I know defined it as a "paro patronal" (sorry, the English isn't flowing fluidly in my brain just at the moment) because these lorry drivers (and the same applies to the fishermen) are small businessmen, they at least own their vehicles, and many have little fleets of two or three trucks or more. So "labor" vs "management" doesn't work. They aren't striking to get concessions from management (they are management), they are causing social disruption to get what they want from the government, i.e., society. Personally, I have always maintained that all professional drivers - lorry drivers, white-van drivers, couriers, bus drivers, taxi drivers, - are bastards. Just look what a pillock Alonso is. My theory is that it's the aggressiveness that the job requires plus all that sitting around and thinking too much about things, it's bound to turn you into a sociopath, or worse. @Ray
The Spanish lorry drivers’ “strike” is not, in fact, a strike, in the sense of workers withdrawing their labour. A trades unionist I know defined it as a “paro patronal” (sorry, the English isn’t flowing fluidly in my brain just at the moment) because these lorry drivers (and the same applies to the fishermen) are small businessmen, they at least own their vehicles, and many have little fleets of two or three trucks or more. So “labor” vs “management” doesn’t work. They aren’t striking to get concessions from management (they are management), they are causing social disruption to get what they want from the government, i.e., society.

Personally, I have always maintained that all professional drivers – lorry drivers, white-van drivers, couriers, bus drivers, taxi drivers, – are bastards. Just look what a pillock Alonso is. My theory is that it’s the aggressiveness that the job requires plus all that sitting around and thinking too much about things, it’s bound to turn you into a sociopath, or worse.

]]> By: hellothere http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/06/12/spanish-staple-foods-for-spain-strike-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-36988 hellothere Sun, 15 Jun 2008 07:49:56 +0000 http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/06/12/spanish-staple-foods-for-spain-strike-crisis/#comment-36988 And the strike now is reaching the UK... http://www.elpais.com/articulo/economia/PROTESTAS/EXTIENDEN/REINO/UNIDO/elpepueco/20080615elpepieco_1/Tes And the strike now is reaching the UK…

http://www.elpais.com/articulo/economia/PROTESTAS/EXTIENDEN/REINO/UNIDO/elpepueco/20080615elpepieco_1/Tes

]]> By: hellothere http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/06/12/spanish-staple-foods-for-spain-strike-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-36963 hellothere Sat, 14 Jun 2008 10:16:36 +0000 http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/06/12/spanish-staple-foods-for-spain-strike-crisis/#comment-36963 Oh no... and now this: Food prices go up 18% because of the strike: http://www.elpais.com/articulo/economia/huelga/encarece/alimentos/mercados/centrales/elpepueco/20080614elpepieco_2/Tes Oh no… and now this:
Food prices go up 18% because of the strike:
http://www.elpais.com/articulo/economia/huelga/encarece/alimentos/mercados/centrales/elpepueco/20080614elpepieco_2/Tes

]]> By: Ray http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/06/12/spanish-staple-foods-for-spain-strike-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-36955 Ray Sat, 14 Jun 2008 03:29:26 +0000 http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/06/12/spanish-staple-foods-for-spain-strike-crisis/#comment-36955 Why does it seem that in Spain, whenever there has been a big strike like this one, the leaders of the group/union that is striking is always on TV talking about getting an agreement or 'contract' with the ministry or government? has the government got itself so wound up in the affairs of commerce that business organizations can longer make agreements and contracts, without the government getting involved? Why is it the government's job to guarantee a worker's group anything. Isn't that the job of the companies they work for? Am I being naí¯ve? What happened to good old fashioned 'labor' vs. 'management'? Why does it seem that in Spain, whenever there has been a big strike like this one, the leaders of the group/union that is striking is always on TV talking about getting an agreement or ‘contract’ with the ministry or government? has the government got itself so wound up in the affairs of commerce that business organizations can longer make agreements and contracts, without the government getting involved?
Why is it the government’s job to guarantee a worker’s group anything. Isn’t that the job of the companies they work for?
Am I being naí¯ve?
What happened to good old fashioned ‘labor’ vs. ‘management’?

]]> By: Ben http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/06/12/spanish-staple-foods-for-spain-strike-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-36948 Ben Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:26:17 +0000 http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/06/12/spanish-staple-foods-for-spain-strike-crisis/#comment-36948 Tampoco! Tampoco!

]]> By: gary http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/06/12/spanish-staple-foods-for-spain-strike-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-36944 gary Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:41:41 +0000 http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/06/12/spanish-staple-foods-for-spain-strike-crisis/#comment-36944 Keep the TV - can I have the macbooks? Keep the TV – can I have the macbooks?

]]> By: Ben http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/06/12/spanish-staple-foods-for-spain-strike-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-36942 Ben Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:16:34 +0000 http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/06/12/spanish-staple-foods-for-spain-strike-crisis/#comment-36942 :) :)

]]> By: ValenciaSon http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/06/12/spanish-staple-foods-for-spain-strike-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-36936 ValenciaSon Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:57:02 +0000 http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/06/12/spanish-staple-foods-for-spain-strike-crisis/#comment-36936 @Ben: Is that a rhetorical question? @Ben: Is that a rhetorical question?

]]> By: Ray http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/06/12/spanish-staple-foods-for-spain-strike-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-36933 Ray Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:45:21 +0000 http://www.notesfromspain.com/2008/06/12/spanish-staple-foods-for-spain-strike-crisis/#comment-36933 you are not alone up there in Madrid... http://flickr.com/photos/aparejador/2574294620/in/photostream/ you are not alone up there in Madrid…
http://flickr.com/photos/aparejador/2574294620/in/photostream/

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