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amp
17th April 2006, 08:57 AM
Ben, Marina and Others Lucky Enough to be Living in Spain at this Time,

When I lived in Valencia (4 years ago) it was quite hard to find authentic food of other nationalities. I recall spending quite a bit of time searching out restaurants and bars that we hoped/had heard might have fabulous Italian/Chinese/Japanese/Middle Eastern/etc food. Given that Valencia was (is) somewhat provincial and at the time was not yet really enjoying the benefits migration can bring in this regard, I think we were probably a bit over-optimistic. Consequently were generally disappointed, and indeed, frustrated by the results of our searches. When we left in early 2002, we had found one reasonable Indian, one reasonable Japanese and one reasonable Chinese place that did dim sum at highly inflated prices. There were two places (owned by the same people) doing Lebanese food, but strangely no Moroccan (though there is a great Moroccan place in Alicante). And really, all these places were ok, but nothing fantastic. There was a group, however, that had opened three Italian places that I highly recommend (Papadelle, al Pomodoro and Miramao for those of you playing at home). But this was it. No Turkish, no Egyptian, no French, no Thai, no Vietnamese, not even so many Sth American places.

When I was there in Dec/Jan, I noticed that 'Kebap' (=kebab) places had sprung up on virtually every corner, but they tasted terrible! They make them from a sort of reconstituted meat roll, rather than the real thing. A Valencian friend suggested an amusing conspiracy theory about these. He said that as Turkey wants to join the EU the Spanish government is allowing these 'kebap' places to accustomise the Spanish to their ways. He says that once the Spanish are hooked on the food, then they will welcome Turkey to the EU ("their food is good, so they must be good too" type thing). Anyway, that was the only change I had noticed so far as foreign food is concerned.

I wondered about the situation in Madrid and other places. Four years ago, I know, there was greater choice in Madrid, though I never really spent enough time there to get a proper feel. (I did find the Thai place run by Thai Australians that have to import some of the ingredients they use from Australia). I didn't have time to go to Madrid in Dec/Jan though. What's the deal now? Can you find authentic tasting foods from around the world in Madrid or other parts of Spain? Or must you be content only with the great Spanish food available?

Marina
17th April 2006, 12:04 PM
Up till 5 or 6 year ago it was difficult to find something different than Italian, Chinese, Argentinian or French. In Madrid there were just three Thais, three or four Indians a few Mexicans, two Marroccans, a couple of Japoneses and more or less that was it. Except probably Barcelona I don't think that the offer of foreign restaurants was any better in other Spanish cities. However due to the recent imigrations, lots of other cuisines have been introduced in Spain at affordable prices, like Caribean restaurants, lots of Indians and Asians in general, Marroccans, Turkish, Greek...

But I think that appart from imigration there are other factors; a few years ago not many people could afford traveling abroad, Spanish economy was much slower than most of other Europeans countries and the exchange rate of the peseta made it very dificult to go abroad and flights from Spain were terribly expensive. Therefore most of Spanish people were not introduced to other foreign foods. With the introduction the Euro, the Spanish growing economy and even the offer of cheap flights the Spanish have finally started traveling the world and knowing other cuisines.

Ben
17th April 2006, 01:17 PM
But... the Thai food is no where as good as it is in the UK, the Indian food is not too exciting, etc etc. The range is improving, but the quality of foreign food is nowhere near as good as in the UK and I imagine the US. Also, try buying ingredients to make a Thai meal at home. In the Uk you can get it all at a local supermarket, in Madrid you have to run all over the capital to get all the right exotic ingredients from various different shops.

cubix
28th April 2006, 02:51 AM
There is always McDonals's and Burger King, same (gross) food everywhere, but I was suprised when the McDonalds served beer....

Greg

gary
28th April 2006, 11:27 AM
I have eaten Indian food regularly in Benidorm and barcelona. It is different to the food you get at home. I grew up in Leeds and the curry that I ate there is usually (they tell me) a Bangladeshi style of cooking. I suppose that with India being as huge as it is - as You can probably testify, Ben - there must be many different styles and methods of cooking.

Its strange that when you at Indian food in Spain the waiter will always ask how hot you would like it to be whereas in England the temperature of the curry is implied in the name thus a Jalfrezi will be medium hot and a korma is always mild.....

How was the Indian food in India?

Ben
29th April 2006, 08:34 AM
How was the Indian food in India?

Amazing, so many dishes that I had never heard of before. Mostly vegetarian in the South, and usually fairly spicy hot, though there were some nice mild dishes too. Being presented with curry as an option at Breakfast was not always what I wanted though!

poncedeleon
29th April 2006, 10:17 AM
Here in León the choice of foreign food is very poor, there are a few foreign restauraunts (handful of chinese and italian, one mexican, one indian that I have seen) but the quality is not very high, and there never seems to be anyone in them! However El Corte Ingles does have a good range of foreign ingredients, you can buy korma sauce and the old el paso mexican stuff, amongst other exciting things. Quite pricey though.

gary
29th April 2006, 10:26 AM
I had an excellent Italian meal at a restaurant called 'Il piccolo' on Parallel in Barcelona, great food, great value. When we returned for our next visit six months later the place had beed taken over and all the waiters were very personable english speaking Indian guys - a little confusing to be served antipasti, pizza and pasta with an asian accent!!

Brian
29th April 2006, 02:40 PM
In my 4 forays to Spain, I have yet to see a Mexican restaurant, which does surprise me a bit. Here, there's a Mexican restaurant on every corner, practically. Would a really good, authentic Mexican restaurant fly in Spain? Why or why not?

ValenciaSon
29th April 2006, 03:14 PM
This New Yorker knows that pizza made it to Spain. How about bagels?

Marina
29th April 2006, 10:04 PM
I've only seen bagels in England and in American films:)
I've never seen a shop in Spain that sells them. However I know there is an American Food shop near Plza Republica Argentina in Madrid, its possible they have them in there. Maybe Catavino can help me with this one?

Marina.