Heatwave in the UK to end

[Alan]

Yesterday in Scotland it was hotter than in Menorca! Unbelievable! But just in time for me to go to Menorca, the "normal" weather is coming back. Tomorrow, there will be lots of rain and the temperature will be much lower.

26 degrees Celcius just feels weird here . . .

[greytop]

26 degrees Celcius just feels weird here . . .
I have the air conditioning set to 25 deg C overnight in the bedroom (eastern Spain)!
Mainly so I can keep the window closed and not get woken by over enthusiastic workmen starting their day at 0630.
Enjoy your holiday

[Jimmy]

What do you guys consider a heat wave ??????

I remember when I worked in the north of Australia once and we had a few days running with the temperature at 53 Deg C.......

Although I have never seen snow :confused: so the same number with a '-' sign in front is foreign to me !!!!!!!

[Edith]

Yesterday in Scotland it was hotter than in Menorca! Unbelievable! But just in time for me to go to Menorca, the "normal" weather is coming back. Tomorrow, there will be lots of rain and the temperature will be much lower.

26 degrees Celcius just feels weird here . . .

What is the average maximum in Scotland? In Holland, the summers are slightly hotter although temperatures do not often rise above 29-31 degrees Centigrade. During the 2003 heat wave, we had temperatures of 35-37 degrees Centigrade in some places. Traveling by public transport became an inferno because our trains and buses are not airconditioned, and the buses haven't got windows which can be opened. When I'm near the Mediterranean I don't mind this kind of heat at all, but this is because the atmosphere is dry. And the buses have got airconditioning too. ;)

I've heard Seville is a real inferno in August, when temperatures may almost approach the extremes Jimmy just described. However, during the heatwave which hit western Europe in 2003, more people died in France as a result of dehydration and heat stroke than in southern Spain. Somehow, the Spanish seem to cope better with these kinds of extremes - perhaps it's their lifestyle.

[greytop]

Noel Coward said it all

http://sniff.numachi.com/~rickheit/dtrad/pages/tiMADDOGS.html (http://sniff.numachi.com/%7Erickheit/dtrad/pages/tiMADDOGS.html)

The locals understand how to keep their houses cool and avoid activity at the height of the day

[Edith]

Noel Coward said it all

http://sniff.numachi.com/~rickheit/dtrad/pages/tiMADDOGS.html (http://sniff.numachi.com/%7Erickheit/dtrad/pages/tiMADDOGS.html)

The locals understand how to keep their houses cool and avoid activity at the height of the day

Mad dogs and Englishmen... LOL. I never knew this phrase was part of a song! :D Thanks for posting!

But it's very true, and it also applies to the Dutch. I've always been impressed by Spanish architecture and by the adobe houses you'll find in Arab countries and the state of New Mexico, which keep out the winter cold as well as the summer heat. In Spain and some parts of Mexico you've got all these pleasant little patios with fountains in them which are almost like oases in a desert.

[Alan]

Yeah, our average July temperature is 16 degrees. Average annual temperature is 9 degrees. To go over 30 degrees is VERY unusual. So yes, 26 degrees is considered a heatwave :)

[gary]

Yeah, our average July temperature is 16 degrees. Average annual temperature is 9 degrees. To go over 30 degrees is VERY unusual. So yes, 26 degrees is considered a heatwave :)

We have 27° here and its 7pm, thats unusual. Though it is quite humid too so its not particularly pleasant, especially if you have to work.....

Im okay up to 32° 0r 33° particularly in dry heat but my wfe's personal cooling system doesnt work - ie she doesnt sweat - she just gets hotter and hotter til the migraine sets in, so we tent to visit Iberia between September and May. One summer in Ibiza in late July she spent almost a fortnight immersed in a bath of cold water during the hottest part of the day. Now we are a little older and more financially stable we can afford the gaffs with aircon (that works).

[Edith]

Yeah, our average July temperature is 16 degrees. Average annual temperature is 9 degrees. To go over 30 degrees is VERY unusual. So yes, 26 degrees is considered a heatwave :)

Only 16 degrees in July! That's cold! :eek: Brrrrrr

In Holland, average day temperatures in July are usually above 20 degrees Centigrade. Most people here like 20-25 degrees.

[Brian]

well, like we always say in the States...

It ain't the heat, it's the humidity.

[Edith]

well, like we always say in the States...

It ain't the heat, it's the humidity.

Which is why I like deserts.

[Alan]

Only 16 degrees in July! That's cold! :eek: Brrrrrr

In Holland, average day temperatures in July are usually above 20 degrees Centigrade. Most people here like 20-25 degrees.

I like it that cool. I don't like the average temperatures in the winter (i.e. January average is 2 deg.) but people put up with a lot worse :)

When I talk about going to Spain, it's in spite of the heat! :) I like the sun, just not so hot!

[Edith]

I like it that cool. I don't like the average temperatures in the winter (i.e. January average is 2 deg.) but people put up with a lot worse :)

When I talk about going to Spain, it's in spite of the heat! :) I like the sun, just not so hot!

Oh, I'm a real sun lover! The best place I've been to so far is Gran Canaria in October. Nice, dry, moderate heat and a slight breeze coming from the sea. Wish I could live and work there... :computer2:

[richardksa]

Which is why I like deserts.


Having just escaped to the relative coolness of the mid thirties I can only assume you have not spent long in such an enviroment. Believe me, June to October where every day is over fifty and it never drops below forty at night, can get pretty tiring. You begin to understand why the countries of the temperate regions invent devices and those from the tropics developed philosophy and the theoretical sciences. ie, those things one does in the shade while not moving!

[Edith]

Having just escaped to the relative coolness of the mid thirties I can only assume you have not spent long in such an enviroment. Believe me, June to October where every day is over fifty and it never drops below forty at night, can get pretty tiring. You begin to understand why the countries of the temperate regions invent devices and those from the tropics developed philosophy and the theoretical sciences. ie, those things one does in the shade while not moving!

No, I have never been to the Arabian desert but I have spent two summers in southern Israel, which has a mild desert climate because of its proximity to the coast. We went to visit the Negev and the Dead Sea, as well as the Sinai. I also spent a couple of weeks in the Sonoran and Chihuahuan deserts during the summer season. The hottest temperature I have ever experienced was 45 degrees Centigrade, in the Sinai near the Red Sea and in the Sonoran desert respectively. Of course it was quite a challenge! ;-)

I have also spent one summer on the Navajo reservation, which is situated on the Colorado Plateau (this semi-arid zone is called 'high desert' and its climate resembles that of the meseta in central Spain).

For some reason, the sun seemed to be at its strongest in the Sonoran Desert in Arizona. I do not burn very easily but there my skin burned within half an hour. Yet, its plant growth was very lush for a desert, and I've been told it gets even more abundant once you have crossed the Mexican border into the states of Sonora and Sinaloa. It would be nice to see the huge saguaros and organ pipe cacti which dominate the landscape there.

Of course it's hard to endure these temperatures, but that's not what I meant. What I like about deserts and semi-arid landscapes deserts is hard to put into words... the night skies, the rock formations, the canyons... among other things. Do you know Edward Abbey? He has described these feelings far more eloquently than I ever could, for instance in Desert Solitaire. A wonderful book.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0345326490/ref=sib_dp_pt/102-4114683-0626558#reader-link

[ValenciaSon]

I was in Saudi Arabia about 15 years ago and I remember vivdly still how hot it got. I've never been anywhere hotter and probably never will. I don't know how you tolerate that heat.

[Edith]

I was in Saudi Arabia about 15 years ago and I remember vivdly still how hot it got. I've never been anywhere hotter and probably never will. I don't know how you tolerate that heat.

Over fifty degrees sounds unbearable to me too.

[deecree]

Which is why I like deserts.

The desert I currently live in often has 100% humidity. :(

[Edith]

The desert I currently live in often has 100% humidity. :(

That sounds awful! I recall you live in Peru,which desert would that be?

[deecree]

That sounds awful! I recall you live in Peru,which desert would that be?

I am in Lima, on the Peruvian desert coast... the Sechura as wikipedia refers to it, but I haven't heard any here refer to it by that name.
During the winter the temperature drops to 16c - 22c, which is considered freezing here, and fog rolls in off the sea. The fog is the only source of water for the plant life, as the soil is bone dry - there is almost no precipitation here.
The fog lingers over the city through almost the entire winter, which with tropical sun is not very pleasant. Dehydration is no problem though, breathing is drinking.

In the summer there is less fog and you can see more than the 50m distance of the winter. The temperature rises to 30c - 35c.

http://enperu.blogsyte.com/blog.aspx?b=28
http://enperu.blogsyte.com/blog.aspx?b=37

As for the "that sounds awful", trust me, its much better than the rain back home.

[gary]

Another way to advertise yourself as a tourist and attract pickpockets is to wear shirt sleeves during the cold months just because it is 16˚C. youll notice all the locals are wrapped up to the nines!!

[Brian]

It was pretty humid and brutal at the beginning of the week (35 degrees, very typical for July), but we've had a real nice gift the last few days, not exceeding 27 degrees, and very pleasant.

[richardksa]

"What I like about deserts and semi-arid landscapes deserts is hard to put into words... the night skies, the rock formations, the canyons... among other things." (Edith)

AND

The silence, the solitude, the freedom from trafiic lights, one way streets, crowds, fumes, shop assistants, traffic wardens, people whose sole topics of conversation are cars and football, inane television and .... oh the list goes on.

[Edith]

"What I like about deserts and semi-arid landscapes deserts is hard to put into words... the night skies, the rock formations, the canyons... among other things." (Edith)

AND

The silence, the solitude, the freedom from trafiic lights, one way streets, crowds, fumes, shop assistants, traffic wardens, people whose sole topics of conversation are cars and football, inane television and .... oh the list goes on.

And sex... I've got a male colleague who talks about sex all the time... as well as about cars, football, and telebasura.

;D ;D ;D

Nothing

[Edith]

"What I like about deserts and semi-arid landscapes deserts is hard to put into words... the night skies, the rock formations, the canyons... among other things." (Edith)

AND

The silence, the solitude, the freedom from trafiic lights, one way streets, crowds, fumes, shop assistants, traffic wardens, people whose sole topics of conversation are cars and football, inane television and .... oh the list goes on.

And sex... I've got a male colleague who talks about sex all the time... as well as about cars, football, and telebasura.

;D ;D ;D

Nothing like

[Edith]

"What I like about deserts and semi-arid landscapes deserts is hard to put into words... the night skies, the rock formations, the canyons... among other things." (Edith)

AND

The silence, the solitude, the freedom from trafiic lights, one way streets, crowds, fumes, shop assistants, traffic wardens, people whose sole topics of conversation are cars and football, inane television and .... oh the list goes on.

And sex... I've got a male colleague who talks about sex all the time... as well as about cars, football, and telebasura.

;D ;D ;D

Nothing like a

[Edith]

"What I like about deserts and semi-arid landscapes deserts is hard to put into words... the night skies, the rock formations, the canyons... among other things." (Edith)

AND

The silence, the solitude, the freedom from trafiic lights, one way streets, crowds, fumes, shop assistants, traffic wardens, people whose sole topics of conversation are cars and football, inane television and .... oh the list goes on.

And sex... I've got a male colleague who talks about sex all the time... as well as about cars, football, and telebasura.

;D ;D ;D

Nothing beats a starlit night sky in the desert...

[Edith]

Something is going on here! I only posted my message once! :eek: (I think)

[Brian]

Something is going on here! I only posted my message once! :eek: (I think)

yeah yeah, post-padder! ;)

Just teasing.

[richardksa]

I just think she wanted to get more sex into the forum!!!!!!!!;)

[Edith]

I just think she wanted to get more sex into the forum!!!!!!!!;)

;D ;D ;D

[Edith]

yeah yeah, post-padder! ;)

Just teasing.

My computer was jinxed last night! I sent a message to you and it just disappeared into cyberspace!

:computer2: :computer2: :computer2:

[gary]

Temperatures of 32*C are slasted for this week - kids in my classes are starting to complain its cold if it drops to 20!!

[Edith]

Temperatures of 32*C are slasted for this week - kids in my classes are starting to complain its cold if it drops to 20!!

In Holland, maximums of 36*C are expected on Wednesday and the buses have got neither airco nor windows which can be opened...

[Alan]

Here in Menorca, temperatures of 37 degrees are normal and it´s set to rise. Far too warm for me. I hide from the sun!

[greytop]

I always thought the advantage of the British weather was that it changed rapidly. Even if it is too hot today you know it will be cooler by the end of the week. Same in winter with really cold snaps. They rarely last more than a week.
Good old Gulf Stream! Although I did read somewhere that even that may reverse if a lot of cold melt water from the Arctic ice arrives.
Still when the meteorite/comet/you-name-it finally hits us, global warming will not seem so important.
Meanwhile lets get this European wine lake sorted. Hic!

[Edith]

Meanwhile lets get this European wine lake sorted. Hic!

Pass me the vino rosado please! :D

[jt_skip]

Dublin (http://weather.yahoo.com/forecast/EIXX0014_f.html) 58...72 F
Stockholm (http://weather.yahoo.com/forecast/SWXX0031_f.html) 55...71 F
Eskilstuna (http://weather.yahoo.com/forecast/SWXX0004_f.html) 54...70 F
Cedar Park, TX (http://weather.yahoo.com/forecast/USTX0225_f.html)73...101 F
Melbourne, AU (http://weather.yahoo.com/forecast/ASXX0075_f.html) 43...51 F
Barcelona (http://weather.yahoo.com/forecast/SPXX0015_f.html)73...82 F
London, UK (http://weather.yahoo.com/forecast/UKXX0085_f.html) 66...90 F
http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/my/we/34.gif:cool::cool::cool:

[Edith]

Lo siento, ¡no entiendo nada de Fahrenheit! :D

Las temperatures en Holanda hoy:

http://image.weather.com/web/blank.gif http://image.weather.com/web/common/intlwxicons/52/34.gif 33°CSoleado

A mi estas temperaturas no me importarían tanto si nuestros autobuses tendrían aire condicionado. Ni siquiera tienen ventanas que se puede abrir... eso es lo peor. Además, es un calor húmedo.

Estoy acostumbrada a viajar en países mediterráneos y la temperatura nunca me ha molestado - al contrario.

[greytop]

Lo siento, ¡no entiendo nada de Fahrenheit! :D

C = (F-32) * 5 / 9
F = (C * 9 / 5) + 32

0 C = 32 F
20 C = 68 F
40 C = 104 F
100 C = 212 F

¿Facíl no?

[Edith]

C = (F-32) * 5 / 9
F = (C * 9 / 5) + 32

0 C = 32 F
20 C = 68 F
40 C = 104 F
100 C = 212 F

¿Facíl no?


LOLOLOL, ¡las cifras nunca me han encantado! ;)

Tengo que añadir algo al mensaje previo. 33 *C son un estimado muy conservador, porque ayer las temperaturas en el sur del país subieron a los 35*C con un alto grado de humedad y murieron dos personas de un golpe de calor en un evento deportista anual en Nijmegen. Durante este marcha, que dura cuatro días, los participantes tienen que caminar 40 kilómetros o más. Después de los fallecimientos de ayer, el evento entero fue cancelado por primera vez en la historia. Creo que mucha gente en nuestra parte del mundo no bebe suficiente agua en el verano porque no son acostumbrado a estos temperaturas extremas de los últimos años. En el kibbutz donde trabajaba yo hace 25 años nos siempre dijeron '¡bebe agua, bebe agua, bebe muchísima agua! Con estas temperaturas, bebo al menos 3 litros de agua cada día. Tengo que admitir que aguanto más los 35*C en el Mediterráneo o hasta en el Caribe que aqui.

Mad dogs and Dutchmen...

[Edith]

Holanda: Cuatro días de Nimega, sin marcha pero con festividades

Los dos caminantes, que fallecieron ayer en Holanda durante la primera jornada de la Marcha de los Cuatro Días de Nimega, eran dos holandeses de 66 años y 58 años. De uno de los dos se sabe que era un experimentado atleta. Más de trescientos participantes y presentes sufrieron los efectos del calor extremo. Decenas de caminantes debieron ser hospitalizados, de los cuales seis continúan internados. La marcha de los Cuatro Días fue suspendida debido a los dos fallecimientos y a la ola de calor. El anuncio de la cancelación de la marcha tuvo una acogida desigual. Por un lado muchos comprenden y respaldan la decisión, sin embargo otros consideran que no tiene sentido anular todo el evento y sugieren que la organización sólo elimine la marcha de este miércoles o que acorte el recorrido de la ruta. En todo caso, esta mañana un pequeño grupo de caminantes ignoraba aún que se cancelaba la marcha. Muchos extranjeros se apostaron en la línea de salida. Las autoridades procedieron a repartir folletos aclaratorios entre los presentes. Las festividades en torno al acontecimiento deportivo de Nimega siguen adelante aunque debido a las dos muertes tienen este año un carácter más austero.

Fuentë: Radio Nederland Wereldomroep