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Old 22nd September 2010, 01:48 AM   #1
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Tengo que preguntar esto:

Fue El Diario víctima de un engaño

Llegan mañana a México restos de ministro de Suprema Corte

Detienen a Braylon Edwards de los Jets por conducir ebrio


Es este orden de palabras lo normal en español, o solamente pertenece a los titulares de los periódicos? Leo El Diario todos los días para practicar mi vocabulario, y he notado que ellos siempre ponen sus titulares en este orden -- verbo, sujeto, demás.

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Old 22nd September 2010, 02:31 AM   #2
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Sincerely, it isn't the logical order in Spanish. I believe that they only do it to attract attention of the spectators. They think if they put more emphasis on the start of the title, people will want to read it. Although, the third news sounds good for me.
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Old 22nd September 2010, 02:37 AM   #3
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[QUOTE=Julvenzor;92281]It isn't really the correct order in Spanish. I believe that they only do it to attract attention of the readers. They think if they put more emphasis on the beginning of the title, people will want to read it. Although, the third news item sounds good to me.
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Old 22nd September 2010, 02:38 AM   #4
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Sincerely Truthfully, it isn't the logical order in Spanish. I believe that they only do it to attract the attention of the spectators readers. They think if they put more emphasis on the start beginning of the title, people will want to read it. Although, the third news story sounds good for to me.
Just a little tweaking to make you sound more natural.

Thanks for the confirmation -- it sounded a little artificial to me, but with Spanish, I never can tell -- might just be my lack of expertise.
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Old 23rd September 2010, 01:11 PM   #5
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Another little 'tweak' :

headlines (in a newspaper) (at least in British English and Australian English,
not sure about American English)
titles (of books)

Just checked WordRefernce.com:
headline = titular
title = titulo
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Old 24th September 2010, 01:11 AM   #6
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Another little 'tweak' :

headlines (in a newspaper) (at least in British English and Australian English,
not sure about American English)
titles (of books)

Just checked WordRefernce.com:
headline = titular
title = titulo
We say headlines, too.
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Old 24th September 2010, 10:09 AM   #7
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Hi Uriel! Well, I was thinking in the headlines and I tell you about them that are "tricky". The journalist language force the position of the words in the way of mask reality and win everyone attention. In this case is like latin but inversely, in Romen times they always put the verb in the last position to maintain the attention of the public. In the headlines you put the verb first because you want people read it all. If you open the sentence with: "El tribunal...", "Los ladrones..." can be the same old piece of news. If you open with an action verb: "Detienen..." "Masacran..." your curiosity needs more information about who, where, when... I have problems with headlines in English too cause they use great words with polysemic meanings.
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polysemic.

Creo que tengo (¿tenga?) un vocabulario inglés muy bueno.. pero nunca he escuchado esta palabra..

¡Muy bien! Gracias.. He googlado esta palabra y he encontrado es verdad.. es un palabra!

http://www.google.com.au/search?sour...-8&q=polysemic

Duncan.

ps.. sí, sí mis amigos.. he BUSCADO...

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Hi Uriel! Well, I was thinking in the headlines and I tell you about them that are "tricky". The journalist language force the position of the words in the way of mask reality and win everyone attention. In this case is like latin but inversely, in Romen times they always put the verb in the last position to maintain the attention of the public. In the headlines you put the verb first because you want people read it all. If you open the sentence with: "El tribunal...", "Los ladrones..." can be the same old piece of news. If you open with an action verb: "Detienen..." "Masacran..." your curiosity needs more information about who, where, when... I have problems with headlines in English too cause they use great words with polysemic meanings.
Tienen una tendencia usar gramatica muy simplificada también en los titulares ingleses, para conservar espacia y exigir la atención.
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