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Old 26th June 2009, 10:27 AM   #1
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is it really pronounced as 'B' in english. This seems to be a source of confusion. Every spanish song I have heard "Vida" is pronounced as "Vee-dah" not "Beedah" and "Volver" is definitely pronounced "Vol-ver" and not "Bol-ver" and of course "Voy" is just as it is written.

So why is it said that V is pronounced like B?? Can I get an example? and what are the rules?
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Old 26th June 2009, 11:54 AM   #2
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In Spanish Castillian, V is pronounced always like english B. I some countries in South America is pronounced like the english V
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Old 26th June 2009, 12:26 PM   #3
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I believe that what the poster Pippa wrote is not quite correct, at least according to accademians. A different pronuncaition of b and v does occur in Castilian Spanish as well as in America, but only in localised populations.

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Representa el sonido consonántico bilabial sonoro /b/, sonido que también representa la letra b (→ b) y, en ocasiones, la w (→ w, 2a).
3. No existe en español diferencia alguna en la pronunciación de las letras b y v. Las dos representan hoy el sonido bilabial sonoro /b/. La ortografía española mantuvo por tradición ambas letras, que en latín representaban sonidos distintos. En el español medieval hay abundantes muestras de confusión entre una y otra grafía, prueba de su confluencia progresiva en la representación indistinta del mismo sonido, confluencia que era ya general en el siglo xvi. La pronunciación de la v como labiodental no ha existido nunca en español, y solo se da de forma espontánea en hablantes valencianos o mallorquines y en los de algunas zonas del sur de Cataluña, cuando hablan castellano, por influencia de su lengua regional. También se da espontáneamente en algunos puntos de América por influjo de las lenguas amerindias. En el resto de los casos, es un error ...

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However, I have met people (both from America and Spain) who were taught in school back in the years that the two letters have different pronunciations. It is also true that many singers from spain and America do artificially pronounce many "v" sounds as in English when they sing, but not when they speak. Why they do it stil flommoxes me. Maybe they think it sounds cooler.
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Old 26th June 2009, 12:33 PM   #4
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One thing I would say is that in Spain they pronounce b and v the same however that sound is not quite the same as the English b -it is much less explosive. The v is not pronounced such that the top teeth contact the lips but with the lips only 'and without any 'explosiveness'.
I seem to remember Graham gave one of his very complicated linguistic terms to the action a while back.
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I believe that what the poster Pippa wrote is not quite correct, at least according to accademians. A different pronuncaition of b and v does occur in Castilian Spanish as well as in America, but only in localised populations.
Nevertheless, as far as the original question goes, for all practical purposes when learning Spanish from scratch, I am sure that Pippa is correct to advise that b & v should be pronounced as 'b'.
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