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Old 8th August 2008, 04:44 PM   #21
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Try these as some of the most common:

After impersonal expressions: es posible que, es evidente que, es necesario que

After words/phrases which imply the future: cuando, la proxima vez que

After certain conjunctions: para que, como si

In dependent clauses using certain verbs when the subject has changed and you wish to convey some sense of uncertainty: espero que puedas venir, recomiendo que vayas

My advice is to firstly practice the verb forms, then learn the situations in which you should use them. Its alot easier than it appears at first - whether its ser/estar, preterito/imperfecto, por/para or el subjunctivo, you will be suprised how easy it becomes if you practice!
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Old 9th August 2008, 03:14 AM   #22
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Here's an acronym that I use with my students for the subjunctive in nominal clauses: WEDDING
Ignacio el independiente (independent clause with subject 1) + que (the wedding ring that binds them together) + Dortea la dependiente (dependent clause with different subject)

W = Wish, will, want (esperar que, querer que, mandar que, etc.)
E = Emotions (estar + emotion que, gustarle, molestarle, etc.)
D = Disbelief, Doubt (no creer que, dudar que, etc.)
D = Denial (negar que, etc.)
I = Impersonal expresions--as long as they don't show truth or certainty (Es increíble que, Es una maravilla que, etc.)
N = Negation--same as denial
G = God only knows the rest!


Hope this helps!
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Old 9th August 2008, 05:24 PM   #23
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Wow, I've never heard any future subjunctives used here, but Marina definitely recognised 'sea lo que fuere'.

We are definitely going to tackly the subjunctive soon by the way one way or another, I'm really looking forward to it!

Another fairly common Spanish proverb that uses the future subjunctive is Adonde fueres, haz lo que vieres, i.e., When in Rome, do as the Romans do.
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Old 10th August 2008, 01:46 PM   #24
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I don´t know if you´ve come across the "Practice Makes Perfect" books. One is Spanish Verb Drills, and contains loads of exercises to help learn the verbs, including practice at changing from one Spanish tense to another. Another is "Complete Spanish Grammar" which explains the subjunctive well and has exercises to back up the explanations.
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Old 10th August 2008, 04:21 PM   #25
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Here's an acronym that I use with my students for the subjunctive in nominal clauses: WEDDING
Ignacio el independiente (independent clause with subject 1) + que (the wedding ring that binds them together) + Dortea la dependiente (dependent clause with different subject)

W = Wish, will, want (esperar que, querer que, mandar que, etc.)
E = Emotions (estar + emotion que, gustarle, molestarle, etc.)
D = Disbelief, Doubt (no creer que, dudar que, etc.)
D = Denial (negar que, etc.)
I = Impersonal expresions--as long as they don't show truth or certainty (Es increíble que, Es una maravilla que, etc.)
N = Negation--same as denial
G = God only knows the rest!



Hope this helps!

this is a great help! Thanks
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Old 20th August 2008, 11:26 AM   #26
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There is obviously no quick and easy way to learn how to use the subjuntive and it is still a bit hit and miss for me sometimes , however i would say that the easiest way to make a start on it is to learn the phrases that it generaly follows like ..... espero que .... me alegro de que.. no creo que.... etc....

hope this helps!!
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Old 21st August 2008, 08:42 AM   #27
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Anybody ever use acronyms to help with subjuntive?

ESCAPAA

E - En caso que - In case that
S - Sin que - Without
C - Con tal que - Provided that
A - A menos que - Unless
P - Para que - So that
A - Antes de que - Before
A - Asi que - As soon as

TEMCHAD

T - Tan pronto como - As soon as
E - En caunto - As soon as
M - Mientras - While
C - Caundo - When
H - Hasta que - Until
A - Aunque - Even if
D - De Manera Que/ De moda que - So that

Learned some of this in class Hope it helps!
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Old 15th September 2008, 03:24 PM   #28
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Like one spanish teacher said about the subjuntivo,

El subjuntivo expresa el mundo irreal, el mundo de Harry Potter

It expreses what you are not sure of: Es posible que haga viento manaña, pero no estoy seguro

Tal vez viva Elvis con extraterrestres.

No creo que John McCain gane/vaya a ganar las elecciónes en Noviembre.



it expreses will/wishes

Ojalá te sea util lo que escribo

Quiero que compres una camiseta azul(quiero comprar una......)

Espero que estés contenta

Me gustaría que estuvieras contenta

Think of it this way to remember ít better Just because I wish for something doesent make it so.

I dont know if it makes any sense, pero espero que te ayude
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Old 18th September 2008, 07:15 AM   #29
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One thing that has helped me to realize when to employ the use of the subjunctive is something my Tico (Costa Rican) friend told me.

In addition to everything that has been listed about impersional expressions , If you are speaking about an action that is going to take place (as in not a hypothetical situation), but has not yet, OR something that is doubtfully going to take place, many times you need to use the subjuntive.

For example... "Cuando llegues, tendrás que contarme sobre todo lo que pasó." (For sure going to arrive, but hasn't yet)

or

"Dudo que vaya a llegar." (Doubt that the action is going to happen)

I don't know if that helps you at all, but it starts to make sense when you think about the situations in which the subjuctive is used.
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