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Old 28th January 2007, 05:09 PM   #21
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Old 28th January 2007, 05:28 PM   #22
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Old 28th January 2007, 08:36 PM   #23
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Creía que eldeano fue simpático, pero ahora, veo que él está bostezando de esta tema. Una tema muy significativo. Sospecho que él sea aficionado de Arsenal. No puede ser!
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Old 28th January 2007, 10:17 PM   #24
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Creía que eldeano fue simpático, pero ahora, veo que él está bostezando de esta tema. Una tema muy significativo. Sospecho que él sea aficionado de Arsenal. No puede ser!
Correcto - no puede ser. Soy de los diablos rojos, no del aburrido aburrido culo También, la palabra 'P' (o 'L' en inglés) me aburre.
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Old 28th January 2007, 10:51 PM   #25
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estoy borracho y no puedo entender tu mensaje eldeano, lo miraré mañana por esta noche i'm putting it into 'the loads of bollocks' envelope

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Old 28th January 2007, 11:17 PM   #26
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tengo que consentir, (I have to agree?)que el segundo gol de Wayne Rooney fue magnifico contra Portsmouth.

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Old 29th January 2007, 01:23 AM   #27
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Buena pista, Ben. He adivinado el mensaje secreto.
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Old 29th January 2007, 06:07 AM   #28
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Todo el mundo habla de este, y todavia no he empezado a verla. Ya, me habeis convencido. Debo empezar el 7 de febrero? O necesito empezar al principio?
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Old 29th January 2007, 09:18 AM   #29
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Tienes que empezar al principio!
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Old 29th January 2007, 10:50 AM   #30
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Tienes que empezar al principio!
Tienes que ver algo más!
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Old 29th January 2007, 11:19 AM   #31
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Tad, la verdad que no estoy prestando tanta atencion al fenomeno como antes.

Edith - cuando no puedes encontrar algo, se dice que esta _ _ _ _ _ _ _ , o en ingles _ _ _ _ !
Refiero (¡por supuesto!) al programa en la televisión que se llama LOST, (a proposito, Ben, han traducido este como PERDIDOS).

No puedo ser que soy único aficionada en este foro.

Doc en mi opinión es absolutamente esencial a ver esta serie de programa 1 serie 1. En realidad es esencial a ver cada programa tres veces!!

¿Alguien sabes si sea disponible con voces español en dondequiera lugar?

eldeano estoy sobrio ahora y todavía no puedo entender esas cosas con P y L a menos que Liverpool empeza con P en español

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Old 29th January 2007, 11:40 AM   #32
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eldeano estoy sobrio ahora y todavía no puedo entender esas cosas con P y L a menos que Liverpool empeza con P en español
That would be 'piscina de hígado' and 'los diablos rojos' are NOT that bunch from Merseyside (affectionately known in my office as 'la escoria roja' ).

La palabra P significa PERDIDO
The word L significa LOST
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Old 29th January 2007, 12:05 PM   #33
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Doh!

Bueno quizas me quede borracho. En verdad- podría ser que no soy muy inteligente!

Es lastima que no eres aficionado de LOST. ManU, bueno, veo; eso expicaría mucho.

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Old 29th January 2007, 12:15 PM   #34
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Doh!

Bueno quizas me queda borracho. En verdad- podría ser que no soy muy inteligente!
Sabes lo que dicen de los que beben mucho.

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ManU, bueno, veo; eso expicaría mucho.
Desde los días de Law, Stiles, Crerand, Charlton, Stepney ...

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Old 29th January 2007, 01:06 PM   #35
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When spurs used to be good

yes, it was a long time ago
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Old 29th January 2007, 01:19 PM   #36
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hmmm escoria: slag; dross;(fig)scum.

Aprendo nuevas palabras cada día!
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Old 29th January 2007, 04:14 PM   #37
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To be boring and return to the original title of the thread - how do you pronounce "Vuelve"? Following the rules I would have pronounced both Vs as Bs, but so often I hear it pronounced "Bwel-vey", although the second v is very soft, which seems inconsistant!
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Old 29th January 2007, 10:06 PM   #38
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To be boring and return to the original title of the thread - how do you pronounce "Vuelve"? Following the rules I would have pronounced both Vs as Bs, but so often I hear it pronounced "Bwel-vey", although the second v is very soft, which seems inconsistant!

I understand what you have heard to be substantially correct. There appears to be a lot more subtlety in much Spanish pronunciation that is a bit too complex for non-native speakers.

So this link gives an extremely complex discussion of the subject (and I get the feeling it seems to contradict itself). Only read this if you are ready for a good mental (and vocal) work-out! !

http://www.champs-elysees.com/produc..._phonetics.htm
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Old 29th January 2007, 10:29 PM   #39
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Thank you for that. So, it's just the laziness of the lips that make the second v a, er, v. In fact I enjoyed that so much I could even subscribe to Champs Elysees, except the Saudi postal service(?) seems to have a knack of making CDs vanish.
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Old 29th January 2007, 10:30 PM   #40
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My take on spanish v's +b's try and say them all like v's but just using the lips, the teeth should not contact the lips at all,and you end up with something in between. Using this technique vuelve por ejemplo does just seem to have a stronger sound for the first v than the second which is simply easier to make less strong with the surrounding letters. i.e it just happens for particular words, that a b or v will change in intensity due to the surrounding letters.
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